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      • Bayushi's Thunder
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        • Ill Omens
        • Little Truths
        • Reflections of Honor
        • Shadow Stolen
        • Sunset at the Sake House
        • The Victory Tribute of Daidoji Uji
        • Watching the Heavens
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        • Arrival of the Crab Clan Ambassador
        • Forbidden Knowledge
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        • A Song of Infinite Sadness
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      • Beginnings
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      • March of the Kitsune
      • Words Against the Shadow
      • A Fox in the Works >
        • Chapter 1 - A Fox in the Works
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      • I Have Known Fireflies
    • Onyx and Ivory Arc >
      • Background for the Onyx Empire >
        • The Events of Winter Court 5
        • Between Winter Court and Empire Reborn
      • Who is Doji Arami
      • Light in the Leaves
      • A Hard Road
      • Kyoumi's Stories >
        • Jealousy (A Beginnings Retelling)
        • Snowflakes
        • A Piece of Truth (A Retelling of A Fairy Tale for the Scorpion Children)
        • The Crane Wife
        • A Horror Story
        • Bright and Precious
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        • A Life Offered
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        • Birds in their Nests >
          • Chapter 1
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          • Chapter 6
        • The Banner of the Shogun
        • School Days >
          • Chapter 1
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        • Chasing the Wind >
          • Chapter 1
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          • Chapter 3
          • Chapter 4
          • Chapter 5
          • Chapter 6
          • Chapter 7
          • Chapter 8
          • Chapter 9
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          • Chapter 11
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          • Chapter 24
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    • Kakita Artisan School
    • Of Dojos and Study >
      • The Kakita Academy
      • Other Clan Traditions
    • Rokugan Local Governance >
      • The Samurai Family >
        • Servants
        • The Samurai House
      • Of Koku: Samurai Economics >
        • Demographics
      • The Structure of a Village >
        • A Typical Village
        • Ashigaru and Levies
      • The Development of Cities >
        • The Layout of the City
      • The Transition to War
      • Courtiers with no Court
      • Court Ranks and Status
      • Clan Variations >
        • Crab Clan
        • Crane Clan
        • Dragon Clan
        • Lion Clan
        • Phoenix Clan
        • Scorpion Clan
        • Unicorn Clan
    • Inflicting Actions
    • The Influence Game >
      • Creating a Court
      • What is Influence
      • Court Sequences and Events
      • Earning Influence
      • Spending Influence >
        • Rendezvous
        • Favors
      • Sample Courts
    • Mass Battles for Small Groups >
      • Armies in Conflict
      • Goals and Advantage
      • Squads >
        • Command Squads
        • Combat Squads
        • Ritual Squads
      • Skirmishes in Battle
      • Order of Battle
      • Rewards of Battle
    • Building Prosperity >
      • Forming a Community
      • Taking Responsibility
      • Prospects and Benefits
    • Shinobi Tips
    • The Game of Letters
    • Rokugani Clothing
    • Rokugani Food and Feasts
    • The Tea Ceremony >
      • An Index of Teas
    • The Language of the Fan
    • Superstitions of the Clans >
      • Shadowlands Superstitions
    • Challenge Focus Strike
  • New L5R Timeline
  • Map of Rokugan
  • The Imperial Census
  • Clan Pack Booklets
  • Fiction from the RPG
    • The Academy Library >
      • The Tao of Shinsei
      • Kakita's The Sword
      • Mirumoto Hojatsu's Niten
      • Sayings of the Ise Zume
      • Unicorn Travel Poetry
      • Crab Slang and Insults
    • Stories of the Crab from the RPG >
      • Hida's Gift
      • What Does Not Kill Me
      • Letter Addressed to Akodo Hirano
      • Research of Kuni Mokuna
      • Hida and Shinsei
      • The Beginning of Meaning
      • The Story of Osano-Wo
      • Battle of the Cresting Wave
      • Lion and Crab
    • Stories of the Crane from the RPG >
      • The Lady Doji
      • The Marriage of Doji and Kakita
      • The First Crane Thunder
      • The Legend of Daidoji Hayaku
      • The Origins of the Asahina
      • The Silver Kirin
      • A Soldier's Report
      • To Win a Heart
      • The First Hantei's Bride
      • Hiramori and Hiramichi
      • Tsume and Katogama
    • Stories of the Dragon from the RPG >
      • The Sword Path
      • The Mysterious Nature
      • Journals of Matsu Chinojo
      • From the Novel Winter
      • Togashi's Secret
    • Stories of the Lion from the RPG >
      • From the Journals of Shinjo Gaemon
      • A Treatise on the Heart of the Lion Clan
      • On a Pedestal
      • A Letter by Akodo Rujo
      • Akodo and Matsu
      • Akodo and Ikoma
      • Akodo and Kitsu
      • Akodo and Shinsei
      • The Death of Akodo
    • Stories of the Phoenix from the RPG >
      • The Measure of Mortality
      • The Journal of Ide Amu
      • Regarding the Death of Matsu Kaiki
      • Observations of Agasha Tamori
      • A Kami on his Knees
      • Shiba's Wife
      • The Lady Asako
      • Battle at Fate Gate
    • Stories of the Scorpion from the RPG >
      • The Honest Scorpion
      • From the Journal of Matsu Sanuro
      • Letters from Daidoji Kukojin to Doji Yari
      • From Kakita Ryoku’s Famous Novel Winter
      • Bayushi's Promise
      • Frog and Scorpion
      • The Betrayer
      • Scorpion Fables
      • Bayushi's Thunder
    • Stories of the Unicorn from the RPG >
      • The Lady's Heir
      • Regarding Shosuro Kenjo
      • Letters from Akodo Toturi to Matsu Kojike
      • A Ride into Darkness
      • Exodus
    • Stories of the Shadowlands from the RPG >
      • Closing Night
      • Masiko
      • Meifumado
      • The Daidoji Yari
      • Letters from the Wall
    • Stories of the Nezumi
  • Fan Fiction
    • AEG Timeline >
      • Kaori's Stories >
        • A Ghost Story from Otosan Uchi
        • A Rokugani Fairy Tale
        • A Thousand Wishes
        • Broken Wings
        • Bushido
        • For Today
        • Gekidan Boukire - The Search for Doji Shizue
        • Ill Omens
        • Little Truths
        • Reflections of Honor
        • Shadow Stolen
        • Sunset at the Sake House
        • The Victory Tribute of Daidoji Uji
        • Watching the Heavens
        • War of the Heavens
      • The Stories of Other Writers >
        • Paper Folding
        • Arrival of the Crab Clan Ambassador
        • Forbidden Knowledge
        • The Journey of the Tear
        • A Song of Infinite Sadness
        • A Letter from the Scorpion - And Response
    • Children of Kashiwa Arc >
      • Beginnings
      • A Letter to the Fox Clan & Makoto - Complete Sincerity
      • March of the Kitsune
      • Words Against the Shadow
      • A Fox in the Works >
        • Chapter 1 - A Fox in the Works
        • Chapter 2 - The Way of Things
        • Chapter 3 - Maiden's Hand
        • Chapter 4 - Three Little Riddles
        • Chapter 5 - What Dreams are These
      • I Have Known Fireflies
    • Onyx and Ivory Arc >
      • Background for the Onyx Empire >
        • The Events of Winter Court 5
        • Between Winter Court and Empire Reborn
      • Who is Doji Arami
      • Light in the Leaves
      • A Hard Road
      • Kyoumi's Stories >
        • Jealousy (A Beginnings Retelling)
        • Snowflakes
        • A Piece of Truth (A Retelling of A Fairy Tale for the Scorpion Children)
        • The Crane Wife
        • A Horror Story
        • Bright and Precious
      • Kibo's Stories >
        • A Life Offered
        • A Life Taken
        • A Life Given
        • Mirror's Edge
      • Empire Reborn Arc >
        • Birds in their Nests >
          • Chapter 1
          • Chapter 2
          • Chapter 3
          • Chapter 4
          • Chapter 5
          • Chapter 6
        • The Banner of the Shogun
        • School Days >
          • Chapter 1
          • Chapter 2
          • Chapter 3
          • Chapter 4
        • Chasing the Wind >
          • Chapter 1
          • Chapter 2
          • Chapter 3
          • Chapter 4
          • Chapter 5
          • Chapter 6
          • Chapter 7
          • Chapter 8
          • Chapter 9
          • Chapter 10
          • Chapter 11
          • Chapter 12
        • Ditched >
          • Chapter 1
          • Chapter 2
          • Chapter 3
          • Chapter 4
          • Chapter 5
          • Chapter 6
          • Chapter 7
          • Chapter 8
          • Chapter 9
          • Chapter 10
          • Chapter 11
          • Chapter 12
          • Chapter 13
          • Chapter 14
          • Chapter 15
          • Chapter 16
          • Chapter 17
          • Chapter 18
          • Chapter 19
          • Chapter 20
          • Chapter 21
          • Chapter 22
          • Chapter 23
          • Chapter 24
          • Chapter 25
          • Chapter 26
        • Duty of War >
          • Chapter 1
          • Chapter 2
          • Chapter 3
          • Chapter 4
          • Chapter 5
          • Chapter 6
          • Chapter 7
          • Chapter 8
          • Chapter 9
          • Chapter 10
          • Chapter 11
          • Chapter 12
          • Chapter 13
          • Chapter 14
          • Chapter 15
          • Chapter 16
          • Chapter 17
          • Chapter 18
    • FFG Timeline >
      • The Lady's Last Journey
      • The Rabbit and the Moon
      • The Enlightenment of Fish
      • Tales of Golden Petal Village >
        • The Story Begins
        • The Emperor's Road
        • A Summer Squall
        • Bitter Steel
        • The Storm-Tossed Cassia
      • Postcards from Otosan Uchi >
        • Postcards from Otosan Uchi - Classes
        • Postcards from Otosan Uchi-Summer Break
        • Postcards from Otosan Uchi-Independent Study
        • Postcards from Otosan Uchi-Practicum
        • Postcards from Otosan Uchi-Post Graduate Work
      • 2020 Clan Letters
    • Clan Wars: The Storm >
      • Storm Rising
      • Storm Breaking
      • Calls the Lightening >
        • The Fires of Otosan Uchi
        • The Iron Citadel
        • The Battle of Beiden Pass
        • Flight of the Crane
        • A Higher Cause
        • Fire and Smoke
        • Lost Souls
        • The Battle of Asahina Fields
        • A Flash of Lightening
        • The Day of Thunder
      • Calls the Lightening - Full
    • Stories from the Jesters >
      • Winter Warfare
      • Toturi and Mikio
      • Reju's Return
      • Careful Planning
      • A Political Water Conflict
      • The Last Kenshinzen in Kyuden Kakita
      • Commencement Speech
    • 1000 Years of Darkness >
      • 1000 Years of Darkness - Go Not Gently
    • Empire of the Emerald Stars >
      • Mirumoto Gunslinger School
      • Dove Clan
      • Shimazu Family
      • Khoshuud Family
      • Kakita Monk School
      • Shinwa - Space Ronin >
        • Benjiro's End
        • The Field of Dreams
        • Catching Dragonflies
        • The Lantern Arc >
          • A Plea from the Lantern
          • The Shinjo Shipyards: Recruiting
          • Flyby the Lantern
          • Gennai's Garden: The Aftermath
          • Gennai's Garden: Late Night at the Hotel
      • Called Away
      • Hope is a Butterfly
  • Rokugan Mixology
    • Crab Mixology
    • Crane Mixology
    • Dragon Mixology
    • Lion Mixology
    • Phoenix Mixology
    • Scorpion Mixology
    • Unicorn Mixology
    • Others Mixology
  • Renaming the Gods
The Winter Garden Of The Kakita

Working with Shinobi

Working with Shinobi
In our Podcast, Court Games, our episode "Daidoji and Shinobi" we had a discussion of how to use Shinobi in an RPG L5R Campaign. 

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In Courts of Stone, the game designers explains the problem of Shinobi, or Rogue-type characters, within a gaming party.  These PCs tend to act on their own, taking actions away from the party, and often bypassing the party completely for long periods of time. They tend to have intricate plans that take time to design out, which again, take time away from the other players.  If all the characters are shinobi, then this problem is bypassed, but that is not on theme for much L5R fantasy.

Courts of Stone proposes leaving the room for a fixed period of time, letting the Shinobi player or players make a plan, return, receive a summary of the plan, and then use opportunities and flashbacks to assume all the setup to minimize time taken up by the Shinobi on stealth or subterfuge plans.  This works as a way of trying to shorten such distraction, but it has its own complications as the player is left trying to fish for their missing pieces and they still take up time.
Here are some suggestions to integrate Shinobi PCs into a 5th Edition L5R campaign to keep them in the same range of actions as the other PCs.

  1. Allow Shinobi PCs to do a shinobi-style action in their downtime to gather a resource for their party, either gaining an item or benefit, or causing a debuff of some sort to their opponents, or getting a clue or something similar. The Shinobi action is done similar to (and at the same rate as) other downtime actions and get boons or gives debuffs to the same scale as other downtime actions. It must be distilled down to 1 roll.
  2. Add an element of risk and increased benefit to the shinobi downtime action by making it so that, on failure of their Shinobi roll, the PC must take 3 strife and make a secondary roll by the means of their choice to explain how they escape the consequence of their failed action. If that roll is unsuccessful, it causes a complication...they aren't immediately found out, but someone, somewhere, has learned something that the GM can and will save to use against the party at a later date.  If their strife causes them to become compromised or have an outburst, this could have an additional impact on the roll, possibly creating a complication even if the character succeeds.
  3. For big shinobi actions that are much larger than what should be a buff or debuff, but instead could be considered a goal, such as the assassination of an enemy or the searching of a key room in a mystery that would have lots of information, require that shinobi action to be embedded in an intrigue, where the other party members are also acting, perhaps to distract, or even for other goals. The Shinobi and the other PCs each roll initiative and take one action/dice roll, and the intrigue length is the length of time the Shinobi has to be successful. If the PCs win the intrigue, the Shinobi gets the full time, or maybe even more. If the NPCs win the intrigue ends early, cutting the Shinobi's time short and they must have finished their Shinobi feat in the time or potentially fail and get caught unless they have added enough time to escape. 
    Especially if there are multiple Shinobi acting within the scene, or Shinobi are conflicting with other Shinobi while the Intrigue is occuring, you can extract the Shinobi(s) initiative and have them acting at the end of the turn, in initiative order among the shinobi.


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